NEW YORK (WCBS 880) -- Now that Brian Cashman has held on to the young pitchers, how will General Girardi use them?
Girardi will not have complete say in how Ian Kennedy, Joba Chamberlain and Phil Hughes will be employed. “The organization” will issue strict innings counts for the youngsters, and Girardi will be under orders to comply.
If these youths constitute 3/5ths of the rotation, this clearly poses a huge problem for Girardi. Namely, he runs the risk of burning out the bullpen since the starters will not be allowed to go deep into games.
To Chamberlain’s credit, he says he is okay with whatever role the team asks him to assume. If he ends up setting up Mariano Rivera for a few months to keep his inning count down, he won’t complain.
Joba told the AP: "We've approached it in a great way. We're going to go in the beginning and understand there's an innings limit, and I know that. I'm excited to have a new challenge this year."
We all know the game as changed and pitch and inning counts are here to stay. Gone forever are the days of 4-man rotations and pitchers with 300 + innings per year. There are a myriad of reasons for this, including the need for teams to protect their big investments and the rise of the relief pitcher’s importance.
But that doesn’t mean everyone likes the trend. Take Lou Piniella, for example. Lou has never been one to “baby” his pitchers. He once told the New York Times: “It’s gotten even more absurd. They’ve put these kids on pitch counts of 100 pitches, pitching every five days. How do you develop good mechanics and good location and how do you learn to pitch yourself out of trouble and get your second wind throwing 100 pitches?“
Below are charts of the top ten pitchers in MLB for innings pitched by decade since the 1970s. It’s not surprising to see knuckleballers like Wilbur Wood and Phil Niekro on the list, but how about the paunchy Mickey Lolich toiling for 376 innings in 1971? That was good for 29 complete games.
INNINGS PITCHED YEAR IP
T1 Wilbur Wood 1972 376
T1 Mickey Lolich 1971 376
3 Wilbur Wood 1973 359
4 Steve Carlton 1972 346.1
5 Gaylord Perry 1973 344
6 Gaylord Perry 1972 342.2
7 Phil Niekro 1979 342
8 Phil Niekro 1978 334.1
9 Wilbur Wood 1971 334
10 Nolan Ryan 1974 332.2
INNINGS PITCHED YEAR IP
1 Steve Carlton 1980 304
2 Steve Carlton 1982 295.2
T3 Jack Morris 1983 293.2
T3 Bert Blyleven 1985 293.2
5 Rick Langford 1980 290
6 Dave Stieb 1982 288.1
7 Charlie Hough 1987 285.1
8 Fernando Valenzuela 1982 285
9 Mike Norris 1980 284.1
10 Steve Carlton 1983 283.2
INNINGS PITCHED YEAR IP
1 Randy Johnson 1999 271.2
2 Roger Clemens 1991 271.1
3 Curt Schilling 1998 268.2
4 Greg Maddux 1992 268
T5 Dave Stewart 1990 267
T5 Greg Maddux 1993 267
T7 Kevin Brown 1992 265.2
T7 Pat Hentgen 1996 265.2
T9 Pat Hentgen 1997 264
T9 Roger Clemens 1997 264
INNINGS PITCHED YEAR IP
1 Roy Halladay 2003 266
2 Randy Johnson 2002 260
3 Curt Schilling 2002 259.1
4 Curt Schilling 2001 256.2
5 Livan Hernandez 2004 255
6 Jon Lieber 2000 251
7 Randy Johnson 2001 249.2
8 Greg Maddux 2000 249.1
9 Randy Johnson 2000 248.2
10 Livan Hernandez 2005 246.1
In the New York Post this morning, Joel Sherman suggests that the Yanks have an elaborate usage plan this year for Joba Chamberlain. If what he says pans out, the Joba “rules” will reach absurd proportions this year.
According to Sherman’s exclusive report, the Yanks will employ Joba in the set-up role for April and May. Then, at some point in June, they will send him down to Scranton so he can “stretch it out” and get into the rhythm of starting. He will then move into the rotation for the 2nd half of the season.
If the team is serious about this plan, it poses several problems. Is the changing of roles and the move back to the minors good for the kid? Wouldn’t it be better to just let him pitch as a starter and leave him alone? Suppose he is lights out for two months as set-up and the Yanks get off to a good start. How disruptive, or even absurd, will it be in June to lose Joba for 3-4 weeks? At that point, he won’t be helping the team as a starter or as a reliever. Why waste 20 or 25 innings at the minor league level if his ceiling is around 150? If the Yanks are serious about this, I’d rather see Joba pitch as a long man at the major league level in June.
From where I stand, this is just too much messing around with the kid. In an effort to “save” him – he is being poked and prodded in excess.
I'd love Earl Weaver to weigh in on this inning count fiasco..Or Jim Kaat for that matter.